Dismantling White Culture at Resonate

General Notes : Oct. 20th - General reflections of Aorta workshops

LLK: Iceberg metaphor (Uprooting White Supremacy handout- could ask to see w/request to llk or piper, can not be shared publicly) : how does white supremacy manifest within our organizations.

Items that are shared from workshop was not “new” or “basic” knowledge for those who have participated in this call/working group. However, the workshop operationalized to undo systems that may perpetuate or strengthen white supremacy or racism in work culture.

How do we materialize claims- where terms like inclusivity have sentiment and meaning within an organization.

LLK: interesting provocation, even after materializing these claims, there has to be work that continuously seeks to confront and undo oppressive logic within work - at Resonate, it is also useful to think about how this works within this context, there is an acknowledgement of the limits, yet new work systems/relations could be/should be better. In particular, there are questions of uneven labor when it comes to do doing this work of diversifying the work culture and centering marginalized needs (as per our manifesto).

D: Curious about cross dialogue between participating organizations during the call?

P: yes there was social sharing, zoom chat, there was allotted space for exchange and reflection between groups. Gave insight to how other organizations are working through these questions. In particular around decision making proved to be useful for Resonate. Also proper channels for moving communication, feedback.

LLK: Around the organization of the presentation: Introduce an issue w/ information and anecdote, moments are held for personal experience and time for reflection. The chat on the call also acted as an interactive space. The chat space and reflection also acts as a way to think about how to make these conversations dynamic so the same responses to these challenges are thoroughly interrogated.

H: Similar to the TWC (Tech Workers Collective): affirming space, great dynamic interaction as part of a workshop. Reminded him to the Kielest meeting too- moments of reflection- “when did we feel supported in learning and growth”. Folks were split into breakout rooms where they could exchange at scale. And these items were shared on a google doc. Many ideas were generated within such a short amount of time. Feels as though this is a great way to run a workshop. Appreciated how it was collaborative, interactive and student centered.

D: How do we center marginalize voices instead of those who believe to be trained or educated on how to counter white-supremacist culture?

LLK: Proper identification of problems as presented by AORTA document proves to be effective to resolve some of the challenges at Resonate.

D and LLK: discussion on terms around in how we think about terms to speak to marginalized communities: how to do we make sure we are identifying the communities that we are committed to making sure are participating at Resonate.

H: speaking to the geographical stretch of participation: folks from outside the US participating in these workshops do act as an intervention.

LLK: the diagnosis is better now than a year ago, but there has to be steps taken to evolve from this.

p: following the doc, pay and benefits- there have been attempts to understand pay, and labor, and combating this type of transparency.

LLK: as per following the AORTA doc, there are many items that Resonate needs to actually chart (pay benefits) and resist tokenization in the name of diversity. The clearest way to identify how this becomes a problem as per the AORTA document is the inability to fully compensate for the type of labor they would need to do at Resonate. There should be concern to really making sure that Resonate can provide real equitable compensation for everyone, but especially marginalized folks.

D: acknowledges these limits and sees it as a hinderance to recruiting new participants and members

llk: Resonate has a complicated relationship to scale- small organization that has set out to remedy huge issues. There is an inherent contradiction in how approach the desired ‘fixes’ within music and capitalism, but small issues (that are related to these big issues) are overlooked.

llk: as per the AORTA doc, questions the role and purpose of entities of Resonate- board etc, and if they are a space of limiting potential of Resonate.

d: there should be a global diversity reflected in all structures at Resonate to counter white supremacist culture.

llk: there needs to be more spaces for critique around structures- as they are historically organized and what they could be to best match the desires of participants and the manifesto: speaks again to a continuous consciousness around need for change and anti-racist, anti-oppressive capitalist culture within an organization.


Very sorry my time was quite chaotic through October and missed the previous meet up. Tue - Thursday workplace shifted as did the daily commute. I have a bit more flexibility/control now and look forward to being present on the 3rd.


Hey All,

We are still meeting tomorrow, but it is over planning for the next month into the AGM meeting!

I look forward to seeing/hearing everyone on the call.


hey folks!

I thought it would be cool to actual shift some of our theoretical exploration into other known methods/pathways toward doing this dismantling work. This week is inspired by feminist movement of the past 30 years. The reading is short and the video is certainly a call to action. Hoping we can use these materials to think about how we approach conflict and how we can orient ourselves toward equitable resolutions.

  1. Everyday Practices of Transformative Justice
    Everyday Practices of Transformative Justice - YouTube

  2. Meyerson, D. E., & Kolb, D. M. (2000).
    Moving Out of the Armchair .pdf (2.1 MB)
    Organization , 7 (4), 553–571.

  3. Read Below:

Seven Attitudes to Dissolve Conflicts- although a bit kitschy, this pratice is situated in standpoint epistemology

By Daniel Robin

If you notice yourself getting dug in or angry in the face of differing views, ask for a time out and step out of the content for a moment and notice if you are presently moving toward your true goal. If not, or if the situation is just getting too uncomfortable, check to see which of the seven strategies shown below would be most helpful in turning your conflict into collaboration.

  1. Define what the conflict is about. Studies on spousal disputes showed that about 75% of the time, partners are fighting about different issues. Ask the other person “What’s the issue?” then “What’s your concern here?” or “What do you feel we are fighting about?” Eventually ask “What do you want to accomplish?” and “How can we work this out?”
  2. It’s not you versus me; it’s you and me versus the problem. The problem is the problem. It’s stupid to try to defeat the other side, because after losing, the first thing the other side thinks is I need a rematch (and I’ll come back with more firepower so I can win this time). If we win at the other person’s expense, we also pay a price in the long run. We have a world of rematches of rematches of rematches. Don’t bring your adversaries to their knees, bring them to the table.
  3. Identify your shared concerns against your one shared separation. Deal with the conflict from where the relationship is strongest (where you agree), not weakest. It’s easier and thus more likely to be effective if you move from areas of agreement to areas of disagreement, than the other way around. Find common ground by meeting the other person where they are. Acknowledge their viewpoint. Stand on this common ground as a stronger platform from which to work out respective differences.
  4. Sort out interpretations from facts. Never ask people who have been in a fight what happened. You’ll get their interpretation, their opinion, their version of what occurred. Instead ask, “What did you do or say?” Then you get perceptions that are much closer to facts, not merely opinions. Facts help clarify perceptions, which is basic to conflict dissolution.
  5. Develop a sense of forgiveness. Reconciliation is impossible without it. Many people are willing to bury the hatchet, but they insist on remembering exactly where they buried it — in case they need it for the next battle. Let it go completely (or decide when you will). A brilliant definition of forgiveness: “giving up all hope for a better past.”
  6. Learn to listen actively. Turn it around, from “when I talk, people listen to me,” to “when I listen, people talk to me.” Habit Five in Stephen Covey’s 7 Habits of Highly Effective People is “Seek first to understand, then to be understood.” Take time to backtrack and verify what you hear. Listen with the intent to understand; not with the intent to respond. Take the first step toward reconciliation by being willing to listen with the intention to understand, and by being willing to listen first. This unblocks the logjam of right/wrong thinking, of ego and power struggle, of compassion over fear.
  7. Purify your heart. You can’t get conflict and violence out of other people without first getting it out of your own soul. We can’t eliminate the weapons of the world without first getting them out of our own hearts. Consider what you really want and find the place inside you that can lead you to it. Peace begins at home. Peace begins with you.

see you all soon!


Meeting notes below! Thank you to the collective who carved this out.

Nov 3 rd 2022

Thoughts around closing this working call/meeting:

  1. Written document to archive history of meeting, content, general opinions by AGM.

  2. General opinions about how the group existed for the year- orientation around time, content, acknowledgement of manifesto.

  3. Critiques

  4. Future Iterations.

brandon: checked in about status of these sessions

consider posting a closing document for the year for AGM.

consider reflecting on future interations of this labor

  • an example of a working group

  • “this is what we realized”

  • “this is where we think the work should go”

  • “this is what happened in this space”

  • what succeeded? what should be attempted?

What’s a working group?

— A research and conversation group / site of cotemplating political education

DWC group - interogation of the historical social conditions in which Resonate operates

– Desire expressed for open chatting / community conversations

DWC specific thoughts:

Re: Community - put to pause. related to Kielest initiative

Expression of the high level of committment/vulnerability involved in facilitating and participating in the DWC space.

Expression of a need for clarity. Desire for goal / objective.

Expression of desire to archive the growth that has occured through the work of the group.

Invitation to reflect on the political stakes for the DWC within and outside of Resonate.

Support for Kielest as a method of continuing the work.

— more time zone trauma

– how should the concluding document or report be constructed and present to the AGM?

– could entail listing what is important to you and what is important to you in these meetings…

– review and reach out to all participants

– review documentation: CryptPad (April 7-August 11, 2022)

– Consider a shared document.

– proposal to prepare a document with the intention to present at AGM (approx 15 minutes).

2021 AGM discussion

Proposal made to make content of report central to remaining DWC meetings this year

Rich expresses complexity of DWC’s function

LLK expresses that much of the work has already been done

Diane: If someone were to encounter this report 5 years from now, what would be meaningful? What could cause a shift in the readers of such a document?

Han: There is some connection between DWC session and the Manifesto

Desire to relate how DWC relates to Manifesto, how Manifesto has affected Resonate

Relevance of Aorta sessions Tech Workers Coalition teach-in to defining the manner of the work here

Perhaps the report will disambiguate some of the different social and educational functions DWC has facilitated.

D: By comparison Revolutionary work has been accomplished here.

H: Document might anticipate barriers to participation

Return to time-of-day based issues.

(Condition of embodiment)


Three take-away’s from the last session:

  1. Embodied live community is always going to be hard on a spherical planet. Some people will need to sleep while others will be awake, in addition to all the other factors- virtual disembodiment, platform-user power relations, etc., etc.

  2. @ode12 saying, with emphasis “Resonate must consider means of Transformative Justice now.”

  3. Dismantling patriarchy at Resonate along with ‘white culture’. Highly recommend the readings from last week.


hey folks! below are the texts for the last session of 2022, also it’ll be the last session i participate in- its been a great ride! im stoked to dig in and really sit with some of this text to wrap up our time together. I am hoping to connect the reading we went through last week to these items.

  1. Terrell J, Kofink A, Middleton J, Rainear C, Murphy-Hill E, Parnin C, Stallings J. 2017. **Gender differences and bias in open source: pull request acceptance of women versus men**. PeerJ Computer Science 3:e111

  2. The White Savior Industrial Complex by Teju Cole - via The Atlantic (2012)

  3. Dr. Sareeta Amrute, Racist Tropes & Labor Discipline: How Tech Inherits & Reproduces Global Imaginaries of Race and Work sponsored by Microsoft Racist Tropes & Labor Discipline: How Tech Inherits & Reproduces Global Imaginaries of Race and Work - YouTube

Here is a cryptpad where folks can jot down what they’ve learned, hope to continue to work through in the future, and whatever else they want to share about the DWC group and study. I hope to share some of these words at the AGM.

Perhaps (although this may be alot for this session) some conversation can happen about future iterations of this work. If anyone really wants to drive this somewhere this could be the best space to think through what that will look like.

until thursday!


At the end of the talk Dr. Sareeta references Tressie McMillan Collom and predatory inclusion, and I did a little search and came across this, which also looks pretty relevant to Resonate! Sorry if it’s been brought up before.

Where Platform Capitalism and Racial Capitalism Meet: The Sociology of Race and Racism in the Digital Society


The study of race and racism in the digital society must produce theoretically distinct and robust formulations of Internet technologies as key characteristics of the political economy. The author puts forth racial capitalism as a coherent framework for this research agenda. The argument for racial capitalism draws on two examples of its engagement with two characteristics of the digital society: obfuscation as privatization and exclusion by inclusion. Internet technologies are now a totalizing sociopolitical regime and should be central to the study of race and racism.

Edit: With @ode12 's blessing I went ahead and made all the reading material and notes available (so far) in the first post.


The piece by Dr. Cottom looks awesome!


Notes for 12.1.2022 (final one of the season!)


Final meeting with D as facilitator

brandon: observed space through forum. saw the great leaps and bounds folks have made through the notes on the forum, reminds us that this work is day to day not just tomorrow fix- and to stay motivated and ready to work.

H: spoke to transformative justice- work reminds them that systemic shifts at times may not be the only factor that is necessary to consider- everyday processes and practices are also as important toward resolution.

R: holds that systemic critique is important too, leans into transformative justice and language and assisted with how meetings and conversations were held this past week- trust and accountability is priority- conflict and pain are going to be carried too, was able to use some of the tools around communication guideposts to have some resolve in conversation. additional notes “I think we are talking about challenging the systemic construction of VALUE we have received. I believe we are trying to practice a revaluing of value.”

H: def agrees that there is connection between systems and practices and processes. there is necessary engagement that should happen as to not lose sight of what needs to shift. also ids how white supremacy is as systemic as is practice- looks to centering voices as a means to upend those practices. looks to the recalibration notes on the forum and sits with how voices have been ignored and overly centered in proposals. Curious to complete how history and archive is used to center and decenter others experiences.

LLK: Sitting with how some of the difficulties of participating at Resonate as a single person, different skills, when power is built without inclusive practice (d’s interpret: legacy relationships, alt issues that aren’t always transparent) the history of Resonate and current ways of communication does not take into account how people come to Resonate- disillusioned, in pain w. system, and desiring to create community with like minded people. thinking about how to contribute and not disrupt some of the work that is conducted on the forum.

R: wants to further explore z’s recent contribution, and comments. the sociality of text does create an alienating situation, and this is important. convo in the forum, noticed that in convo- a mention of an alternative system of organizing seemed to not follow in good faith response to the proposal.

d: archive and history is important when bringing forth proposals, so initiatives that are already in place are recognized and considered

b: reflecting on coop jackson- proposals even if they are awesome, can be overwhelming because work is already so strained. very important to center voices, and acknowledging folks that are doing day to day labor. “for shit to resonate, there has to be a sense of connection, and work together”

llk: there is some top down hierarchy that is oriented just simply due to gaining capital to equitably sustain the labor that goes into working- sits with the contradiction, as there is also a grassroots orientation around how the work should be done. resonate needs to decide what the goal should be, what is the current aim and identity in real time and down the future.

D: coops are tools. thinking through strategy as we are operating in capitalism is important.

r: conditions of trust and confusion, “adds to weight” of the moment. binary avoidant, thinking through what complicated situations can bring forth, what are practices that help build trust to do this work.

H: also feels that there has been confusion, and truth- common ground could be established through acknowledging both instances. moving forward and linking the discussion to some of the reading, reflecting w// cole’s work- now later- intention is not enough, erasure of work can happen if not considered, what is the way forward as well when harm is done. even w/ level of accountability, - if intention isn’t enough and harm is caused, there is a disconnect. one persons well meaning intention has caused harm, what is the way forward? there should be an accountability process. how can the harm be repaired not as an individual but as a collective initiative to help create a better place where convos w/o judgement can happen, and could also help repair trust

b: agrees with H, remembers the worker retrospective space as a ground or place to do this type of conflict resolution, and there absolutely needs to be one. thinks about self-criticism as one tool that could be useful

r: wants to speak to harm- there can be situations where intent is not there, harm can be realized through confusion, the sense of harm also should be respected. understood moments and meetings to be open spaces to pull other people in to convo- in particular, z, was invited to come in and contribute ( d’s notes- there is a moment here now that explains why procedure is important in how information is shared) wants to note that r sees structure, but barebones. the intention of that meeting was not to propose but to share a map. “People thought the synch up meeting was a meeting with Justifay. folks noted they were confused about the premise of the meeting”

llk: does not think ‘confusion’ is an effective descriptor of how contradiction exists. The conflicts can come from other places, in particular historical relationships and unknown conversations/ generalizations that were made before that conversation. conflicts are not being resolved and that carries into how we resolve contradictions.

d: capitalist orientation and hierarchy should one person be the absolute for convo. how can we counteract that - and hold the role as exec not as a conductor, but as a person who watches and reminds people of how we are moving together?

d: closing notes: very excited for the future of this working group- please add notes to doc for AGM for future iterations and suggestions on how this group can be run. In spring (Feb 2023, will hold a reading group on Noise Uprising) not exclusive to Resonate members, will keep folks in the loop on what that’ll look like and probably post in forum


Hey all, I’ve been REALLY absent from everywhere here for a minute. I have a gig on Thurs mornings that prevents me from attending this (If I am reading the time zone correctly.) I will try to stay in the loop as much as possible here. I am reading a book right now that I very much think this thread/people would appreciate so all of you do cross my thoughts frequently, along with this very important work.


hey!!! its great to hear from you. we had our last session of the year some weeks ago, but @psi did the heavy lifting of archiving and organizing the texts. Please share the work you are reading, maybe itll inspire the agenda for the spring.


I am reading ‘Hope in the Dark’ by Rebbeca Solnit: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28048.Hope_in_the_Dark

The book is an easily digestible set of short essays. It is a powerful way to read on these types of topics, I feel, simply because I can take on complex abstract thinking in small digestible bites and sit with it before moving on to the next. The book focuses on the how movements for social change take time, and how opposition would like people to loose hope. She also makes good mention of how vital the arts are to movements of social change and how the two are often closely linked along with creative thinkers (innovators, philosophers, writers, scientists etc.) So far its been very compelling for myself on days when I feel like the world wont change and is only getting worse, OR on the flip side when I worry about the future of THINKING and change as I watch AI become positioned to eradicate original thought and with it threaten activism and cultural change. (I wrote an essay about that elsewhere- which would be way off topic-as this ramble is likely venturing!) Anyhow, its a fantastic and accessible read for activism and helps when things seem immovable. Its inspiring and if I had the money I would buy it for everyone I know.


we did a session actually on movement organizing some weeks ago so that text is very relevant , share ur piece w/ us ! i’d love to read it!


The ‘next’ meeting is still listed on the calendar. Shall I delete it?

Deleted. I can restore it if needed.


I’ll post a link if I get it published. I am working it into a bigger piece because its upset me so much, and I am having the conversation ad nauseam with a lot of people. Its very depressing. Less depressing is that I have new music coming out soon, which I will share here, hopefully very soon.


May I add text to this document after today?

Is the intention that it remain open for a period of time?

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